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Dawn of Permid Civilisation-PW by Neethis Dawn of Permid Civilisation-PW by Neethis
Forests of giant fern trees and spindly conifers wave in the breeze, vast fields of deeply rooted vegetation cover the lowlands, and baking yellow-red sands stretch from horizon to horizon in broad desert expanses. A thick polar cap sags over the southern continent, and one large ocean stretches around half the planet. This is Earth, 250 million years before our time, and the planet is alive with the sound of a species of creatures working, competing, exploring, and building civilisation....


Well now, it's been a while since I posted anything, so here we go :) This is the first map of a series I plan to do following the Permid civilisation, set in the Permian Age around 250 million years ago which will (hopefully) follow them from the dawn of their culture to their eventual extinction as the environment of their world collapses around them.
This map is of that dawn; the Permid species, a type of therapsid, has begun to expand across their world, and in a few places begin a collective drive towards civilisation. Three of these places have already achieved a level of structure and organisation only alotted to a complex society; the wide deltas of the Houte support a civilisation which hugs the river, sheltering from the harsh desert and praying to deathly gods; the broad and lush Naa'Dow valley holds an industrious and creative culture, producers of complex pottery and sculpture; and the eastern passes through the high equatorial mountains have forged a cultural metropolis built around trade, a crossroads where ideas and innovation can be shared.
Across the rest of the world, the Permids live and thrive to varying degrees, from tough and nomadic herders roaming the tundra near the south polar cap, to sedentary farming groups growing tilled fields of tough root crops which can be harvested throughout the winter, while the northern and eastern lands are still primative, and relatively sparsely populated; Permids aren't as good raft builders as ourselves, and the lack of large woody trees in many places of the north hasnt helped.

Comments and questions are welcome as always :) This will hopefully develop into a series, so let me know if you like what you see and read!
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BudCharles Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014
Well this civilization isn't going to last very long :P
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Whachamacallit1 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012
Oh wow, this is really cool! Are you going to sketch up a picture of how these therapsids (gorgonopsids?) look?
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Neethis Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
I would love to, alas I havent the skill :D
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DJaked Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Your maps make me wish I could play civilization building games based on them. This is awwwwwwesome.

Have they done any complex masonry yet for temples or fortifications? Or are all structures still being made of mud and reeds?
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011
Thanks! :D I've wished many a time that I could build games out of them myself... any ideas how? :P lol

Building is still primitive; the civilisations shown are still at the level of mud huts, dry-stone walls, cave paintings and the most primitive pottery. The wide spread fern-trees aren't quite as good for building materials as our own woody trees, but the ferns themselves are good for weaving covers and baskets. The civilisation around the Houte River is experimenting with some forms of irrigation though, and the Dourne people are at a critical crossroads of cultures and ideas in their mountain passes...
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K-Haderach Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Aenek-Lycaon beat me to it, but my first thought after seeing this was "the Great Dying being caused by a sapient species ravaging the environment! Yes! Someone should write a novel about that!" :)
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
I considered it, but wrote it off as too cliché... I'll see how it goes, might be a good route to head down :P Otherwise I'm planning to just run with their attempts to first stave off, then just survive, the Great Dying...although it does sound like a good novel :D
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K-Haderach Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011
Well, if it's a story about survival, then we already know the ending in advance: they fail and everyone dies. It would be a very tragic story...
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Interesting... I was thinking about a map in the far future with something similar to this... our future inheritors of the world :P
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
:D
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
I hath been inspired :P
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Just how far in the future are we talking about? And it's not going to be sapient squid, is it? :D
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
You've seen the same shows I have, considering I get that squid reference :P

Aneh hoo, plausibly about 250 million+ years for sentience to develop in a new form of animal. The continents shouldn't have shifted too much by then, I hope D:
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011
No? This map is only 250 million in the past, I'd think there'd be at least as much change between now and 250 million in the future :P
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Hmm... I don't have any future continent templates D:
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2011
Apparently there's three probable/possible arrangements for 250MYF, two of which involve the closure of the Pacific, the other closing up the Atlantic... You want me to make a template for you? :P
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Aenek-Lycaon Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
I'm calling it now; They cause the Great Dying.
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
I considered that, but it's a tad too cliche :P lol
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:iconaenek-lycaon:
Aenek-Lycaon Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
Cliche isn't always bad lol
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Permlid Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
Permid?! So close.
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
lol :D What d'ya think of the concept?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
This is great, any ideas on what they would look like?
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Im stil trying to figure it out >_< lol... I'm also thinking they'll be primarily bipedal, but resort to four legs when needing to run or travel long distances...?
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lamnay Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Well you're welcome on Spec Evo if you need help
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Lowtuff Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
I LOVE THIS MAP! (Anything to do with Palaeogeography I just eat up, and adding an earlier Civilisation in the Permian is a fab idea!)
Please, Pleeeease make more of this!
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Thanks, Ive had the idea on the backburner for ages now :D I'll try!
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Mister-Ed-Fan Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Permian n? Oh my god this is awesome! :D I'll definitely look out for more!
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
:D
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Mister-Ed-Fan Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I'm guessing that they last to the Permian Extinction Event then?
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011
If I can keep making maps and writing for that long ;)
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Mister-Ed-Fan Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
It's called TIME JUMPS
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Chanimur Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cool idea, and nice work!

...Although it does make me want to write a fanfic called "Young Root Farmers in Love". :D
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Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
lol, thanks very much :D and feel free, although I don't know exactly what the species looks like yet... heh
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
It would be interesting to see how far you could take this. Maybe have them develop to the point of having spaceships?
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
I'd love to take it that far, at least to the point where they make it to the Moon :D lol
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
THAT would be interesting. :D
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Spiritswriter123 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
is it just me, or does this look aweful like Pangea?
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
That's because it IS :D This is Earth, 250MYA
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Imuildaeren Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
I agree.
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:iconneethis:
Neethis Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
See below :D
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:iconimuildaeren:
Imuildaeren Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2011
its actually above for me :P but ok.
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